LWG Minutes 2014-12-03
- 1 Agenda
- 2 Attendance
- 3 Meeting Minutes
- 3.1 lustre.org transitions status update
- 3.2 Lustre Developer Project Meeting update
- 3.3 Lustre 2.7 testing
- 3.4 Discuss next actions on agreed dev process improvements
- 3.5 Cray ticket LU-5969
- 3.6 More lustre.org planning
- 4 Action Items
- lustre.org status update
- Lustre Developer Project Meeting update
- 2.7 testing
- Discuss next actions on agreed dev process improvements (s/Feature/Development/ Releases, start using and merging topic branches)
- Cory Spitz (Cray)
- Peter Jones (Intel)
- Nathan Rutman (Seagate)
- Justin Miller (IU)
- James Simmons (ORNL)
- Paul Sathis (Intel)
- Chrs Morrone (LLNL)
- Aurelien Degremont (CEA)
- Ruth Klundt (Sandia)
- Colin Faber (Seagate)
- Chris (Cray)
- Sebastien Buisson (Bull)
- Patrick Farrell (Cray)
lustre.org transitions status update
The lustre.org transition is nearing completion. Chris has asked the OpenSFS Board for a technical contact at Seagate, and another from EOFS, so that we can implement the web site transition.
Lustre Developer Project Meeting update
Chris has most of the broad strokes in place for the meeting. Meeting room is reserved, long email of detail put together. The main thing missing is a final agenda. Volunteers for giving talks and leading discussions likely to increase once official registration information advertised.
Some people suggested Wednesday/Thursday would be better than Thursday/Friday.
Chris thinks it is too late to change now, room already reserved for Thursday/Friday.
Lustre 2.7 testing
cray not doing much testing with master at the moment. probably not much time left this year. Cory: When would 2.7 RCs start coming out? Peter: RC expected late January if late February release on time. Simmons: testing, but mostly with lnet stuff Minor problems like dynamic lnet config commands are wrong
Discuss next actions on agreed dev process improvements
Next steps to change "Feature Release" names to "Development Release"
Next roadmap refresh.
Chris: Update current download page?
Peter: at next release
Cory: lustre.org change is good opportunity to make changes
Generally agreed that the lustre.org web page refresh and the next major Lustre release is the time to make the name change.
start using and merging topic branchs
Currently in feature freeze, 2.8 landing period would be first time to implement
Chris: how are we going to make the decision?
Peter will take task to investigate.
Chris: will the current tools work with that
Cray ticket LU-5969
Peter asked if Cray analyzed who the copyright holders are Patrick: given difficulty identifying copyright holders, probably easier to rewrite the api CEA: doesn't think changing license would be a problem
Nathan: perhaps just say "we're changing the license by some date", force them to opt out of the change rather than opt in.
Peter: worried about getting something done for 2.7
Chris: worried that if we change the library license we'll never address the API technical debt
Patrick and James agreed
Peter: Patrick/Cory, is this something cray will work on, or looking for volunteers?
January meeting agenda: new API design
Cory: can keep old API
James: libcfsutil library needed too
Cory: would need architects to weigh in on the API design
LU-5712 raised as well.
More lustre.org planning
Cory: What is our plan?
Chris give his initial vision. Immediately redirect lustre.org to point to the current lustre.opensfs.org page, then gradually work on migrating the old lustre.org information to a useful place.
Take a hard look at the Ceph web site, and other successful open source software web sites. Mine them for good web site design ideas.
Cory worried about content. Need to get organized.
Cory thinks Cray can contribute some help to content.
We should have the Doxygen stuff posted on the web site. Web site should be Google indexed.
Cory mentions that we need to address the plethora of mailing lists as well. Chris agrees, suggests that the lustre.org transition will be the time to send clear announcements and encourage everyone to centralize on the lustre.org mailing lists.
Someone mentions that it might be nice to have at least 2 mailing lists.
Chris clarifies that we have long had multiple good mailing lists at lustre.org:
they had just fallen into disuse with the ambiguities surrounding lustre.org. Those lustre.org mailing lists are ready for us to use, we will just need to advertise and encourage people to use them as the primary disucssion areas for lustre.
Chris also mentions that the lustre IRC channel would be good to advertise on the web site. The IRC channel is often part of a vital open source project.
Chris volunteers to organize the lustre.org effort. He makes it clear that he can't do most of the work of content generation, but we is willing to organize and direct content generators' activities. Also to coordinate the OpenSFS web guy, as well as coordinate with Seagate and EOFS technical contacts.
- Peter to look into use of feature/topic branches (will gerrit work for us?)
- Chris to organize lustre.org transition for OpenSFS side